Editor’s Note: We updated this article for 2020. This is our fifth time ranking the worst small cities in America.
There’s a common denominator that all bad small cities have.
They are the places that have bad economies. They are the places where the school systems are in bad shape. They’re the places where people are out of work, and where residents earn low salaries.
If home prices are low, it’s a sign that there’s not a lot of demand to live there.
And certainly, if crime is really high, no one wants to be there at all.
The cities we used in this report are small cities that have populations under 70,000. Many are suburbs of major cities where things aren’t going very well right now, at least according to data, which measures the good things that people say they want in a city.
There might be some surprises on this list, but when you look at the unbiased data, it’s hard to argue against. We had more than 10 million people read our worst cities in a state series, which was featured in hundreds of media outlets, including an NPR feature.
So we know what we’re talking about.
After analyzing over 400 cities with populations under 70,000, here is our list of the worst small towns in America:
- Pine Bluff, AR (Photos)
- Gadsden, AL (Photos)
- Port Arthur, TX (Photos)
- Monroe, LA (Photos)
- Hot Springs, AR (Photos)
- Daytona Beach, FL (Photos)
- Muskogee, OK (Photos)
- LaGrange, GA (Photos)
- Fort Pierce, FL (Photos)
- Valdosta, GA (Photos)
What’s interesting is that half of these are in Alabama or Texas.
You might be surprised to see some of these cities on this list. We understand there’s a lot of good in every place. However, according to data (which doesn’t measure things like beauty, ‘friendly people’ and community involvement), there are far better options in America for making a place home.
The best small town to live in America? Los Altos, CA. More on that later.
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How do you decide if a place is lousy or not?
In order to rank the worst small towns in America, we had to determine what criteria people like or dislike about a place. It isn’t a stretch to assume that people like low crime, solid education, things to do and a stable economy.
So we scraped the internet for those criteria, asked for the opposite of those, and it spit out the answer. Like magic.
How we crunched the numbers
We threw a lot of criteria at this one in order to get the best, most complete results possible. Using FBI crime data and the government census this is the criteria we used:
- Population Density (The lower the worse – meaning there’s less to do for indoor entertainment)
- Highest Unemployment Rates
- Adjusted Median Income (Median income adjusted for the cost of living)
- High Housing Vacancy Rate
- Education (Low expenditures per student and high Student Teacher Ratio)
- High Crime
If you’d like to see the complete list of cities, scroll to the bottom of this post to see a link to the entire data set.
Note: We get the crime numbers from the FBI, which gets its crime numbers from the cities themselves. This list is based on data, and is entirely unbiased.
Population: 44,509
Rank Last Year: 3 (Up 2)
Median Home Value: $73,700 (19th worst)
Unemployment Rate: 13.2% (20th worst)
More on Pine Bluff: Data | Photos
Population: 35,832
Rank Last Year: 1 (Down 1)
Median Home Value: $68,800 (13th worst)
Unemployment Rate: 9.6% (72nd worst)
More on Gadsden: Data | Photos
Population: 55,177
Rank Last Year: 2 (Down 1)
Median Home Value: $64,300 (6th worst)
Unemployment Rate: 9.2% (96th worst)
More on Port Arthur: Data | Photos
Population: 48,938
Rank Last Year: 3 (Down 1)
Median Home Value: $143,200 (154th worst)
Unemployment Rate: 10.8% (44th worst)
More on Monroe: Data | Photos
Population: 36,780
Rank Last Year: 6 (Up 1)
Median Home Value: $114,700 (90th worst)
Unemployment Rate: 11.2% (38th worst)
More on Hot Springs: Data | Photos
Population: 65,339
Rank Last Year: 9 (Up 3)
Median Home Value: $126,300 (114th worst)
Unemployment Rate: 8.6% (132nd worst)
More on Daytona Beach: Data | Photos
Source: Public domain
Population: 38,139
Rank Last Year: 25 (Up 18)
Median Home Value: $88,600 (36th worst)
Unemployment Rate: 7.1% (221st worst)
More on Muskogee: Data | Photos
Population: 30,442
Rank Last Year: 5 (Down 3)
Median Home Value: $126,600 (116th worst)
Unemployment Rate: 10.4% (48th worst)
More on Lagrange: Data | Photos
Population: 44,248
Rank Last Year: 7 (Down 2)
Median Home Value: $91,400 (41st worst)
Unemployment Rate: 9.4% (83rd worst)
More on Fort Pierce: Data | Photos
Source: Public domain
Population: 56,036
Rank Last Year: 17 (Up 7)
Median Home Value: $116,000 (93rd worst)
Unemployment Rate: 10.3% (52nd worst)
More on Valdosta: Data | Photos
There You Have It
If you’re looking at small cities in the U.S. where crime is high, people are broke, and the public schools are lousy, this is an accurate list.
Here’s a look at the best small cities in America according to the data:
- Los Altos
- Princeton
- Sammamish
Detailed List Of The Worst Small Cities To Live In America
| Rank |
City |
Population |
Unemployment Rate |
Home Value |
| 1 |
Pine Bluff, AR |
44,509 |
13.2% |
$73,700 |
| 2 |
Gadsden, AL |
35,832 |
9.6% |
$68,800 |
| 3 |
Port Arthur, TX |
55,177 |
9.2% |
$64,300 |
| 4 |
Monroe, LA |
48,938 |
10.8% |
$143,200 |
| 5 |
Hot Springs, AR |
36,780 |
11.2% |
$114,700 |
| 6 |
Daytona Beach, FL |
65,339 |
8.6% |
$126,300 |
| 7 |
Muskogee, OK |
38,139 |
7.1% |
$88,600 |
| 8 |
Lagrange, GA |
30,442 |
10.4% |
$126,600 |
| 9 |
Fort Pierce, FL |
44,248 |
9.4% |
$91,400 |
| 10 |
Valdosta, GA |
56,036 |
10.3% |
$116,000 |
| 11 |
Goldsboro, NC |
35,432 |
15.4% |
$122,300 |
| 12 |
Meridian, MS |
39,213 |
8.7% |
$83,000 |
| 13 |
Texarkana, TX |
37,222 |
8.9% |
$122,800 |
| 14 |
Petersburg, VA |
32,037 |
12.2% |
$112,900 |
| 15 |
Elkhart, IN |
52,662 |
9.4% |
$87,700 |
| 16 |
Hattiesburg, MS |
46,495 |
14.6% |
$104,200 |
| 17 |
Rome, GA |
36,029 |
8.9% |
$141,600 |
| 18 |
Harlingen, TX |
65,444 |
8.6% |
$85,700 |
| 19 |
Anderson, IN |
54,986 |
9.2% |
$70,500 |
| 20 |
Youngstown, OH |
64,852 |
15.4% |
$43,500 |
| 21 |
Alexandria, LA |
47,954 |
10.3% |
$137,900 |
| 22 |
Myrtle Beach, SC |
30,760 |
9.2% |
$178,300 |
| 23 |
East Point, GA |
35,380 |
10.8% |
$96,900 |
| 24 |
Atlantic City, NJ |
39,075 |
14.4% |
$168,800 |
| 25 |
Texas City, TX |
47,262 |
8.6% |
$105,000 |
| 26 |
Lima, OH |
37,592 |
12.4% |
$66,000 |
| 27 |
Rocky Mount, NC |
55,373 |
10.7% |
$104,700 |
| 28 |
Muskegon, MI |
38,189 |
14.7% |
$65,800 |
| 29 |
Pontiac, MI |
60,039 |
14.9% |
$56,300 |
| 30 |
Clovis, NM |
39,255 |
8.8% |
$130,900 |
| 31 |
Ocala, FL |
57,812 |
8.6% |
$121,800 |
| 32 |
Sumter, SC |
40,286 |
11.2% |
$141,000 |
| 33 |
Panama City, FL |
36,661 |
8.9% |
$147,300 |
| 34 |
Statesboro, GA |
30,649 |
12.6% |
$117,000 |
| 35 |
Lufkin, TX |
35,888 |
7.3% |
$103,800 |
| 36 |
Middletown, OH |
48,350 |
10.8% |
$93,800 |
| 37 |
Adelanto, CA |
32,867 |
17.2% |
$151,600 |
| 38 |
Cookeville, TN |
32,536 |
8.4% |
$160,600 |
| 39 |
Lauderdale Lakes, FL |
34,744 |
12.5% |
$101,600 |
| 40 |
Phenix City, AL |
36,870 |
8.6% |
$123,400 |
| 41 |
Nacogdoches, TX |
33,589 |
11.4% |
$137,300 |
| 42 |
North Little Rock, AR |
66,144 |
9.2% |
$123,500 |
| 43 |
Galveston, TX |
49,706 |
8.7% |
$163,300 |
| 44 |
Cleveland, TN |
43,496 |
7.3% |
$159,200 |
| 45 |
Chester, PA |
34,102 |
18.1% |
$67,300 |
| 46 |
Biloxi, MS |
45,328 |
9.2% |
$154,800 |
| 47 |
Lake Worth, FL |
37,354 |
9.9% |
$165,600 |
| 48 |
Roswell, NM |
48,163 |
6.8% |
$103,000 |
| 49 |
Burlington, NC |
52,813 |
7.2% |
$124,900 |
| 50 |
York, PA |
44,058 |
13.3% |
$74,400 |
| 51 |
Dalton, GA |
33,540 |
8.5% |
$136,200 |
| 52 |
Harrisburg, PA |
49,278 |
12.8% |
$82,100 |
| 53 |
Coachella, CA |
44,382 |
14.4% |
$183,800 |
| 54 |
Warren, OH |
40,244 |
8.9% |
$62,500 |
| 55 |
Weslaco, TX |
39,420 |
5.7% |
$78,400 |
| 56 |
San Luis, AZ |
31,509 |
15.9% |
$112,200 |
| 57 |
San Juan, TX |
36,469 |
7.6% |
$85,000 |
| 58 |
Kingsport, TN |
52,698 |
7.1% |
$136,000 |
| 59 |
Battle Creek, MI |
51,505 |
8.9% |
$80,700 |
| 60 |
Homestead, FL |
67,354 |
9.4% |
$166,700 |
| 61 |
Huntington, WV |
48,034 |
8.0% |
$95,200 |
| 62 |
Saginaw, MI |
49,366 |
15.4% |
$38,600 |
| 63 |
Sanford, FL |
57,979 |
9.9% |
$113,100 |
| 64 |
Dothan, AL |
67,784 |
8.1% |
$143,800 |
| 65 |
Jackson, TN |
66,977 |
6.9% |
$131,800 |
| 66 |
Muncie, IN |
69,237 |
9.5% |
$70,500 |
| 67 |
Winter Haven, FL |
38,663 |
9.0% |
$121,600 |
| 68 |
North Miami, FL |
62,308 |
10.3% |
$167,700 |
| 69 |
Columbia, TN |
36,635 |
6.4% |
$126,000 |
| 70 |
Lorain, OH |
63,731 |
11.4% |
$84,300 |
| 71 |
Beloit, WI |
36,733 |
10.3% |
$85,200 |
| 72 |
Chicago Heights, IL |
30,292 |
14.4% |
$98,300 |
| 73 |
Hobbs, NM |
37,427 |
6.2% |
$123,100 |
| 74 |
Plant City, FL |
37,459 |
9.0% |
$144,100 |
| 75 |
Florence, AL |
39,824 |
6.4% |
$126,600 |
| 76 |
Sherman, TX |
40,543 |
6.7% |
$106,100 |
| 77 |
Decatur, AL |
54,844 |
6.2% |
$130,600 |
| 78 |
Parkersburg, WV |
30,596 |
8.0% |
$87,600 |
| 79 |
Douglasville, GA |
32,768 |
11.1% |
$153,500 |
| 80 |
Riviera Beach, FL |
34,093 |
11.2% |
$156,300 |
| 81 |
Hickory, NC |
40,157 |
8.3% |
$163,700 |
| 82 |
Binghamton, NY |
45,964 |
11.7% |
$87,500 |
| 83 |
Hopkinsville, KY |
31,741 |
9.5% |
$113,000 |
| 84 |
Lancaster, PA |
59,556 |
9.6% |
$109,700 |
| 85 |
Bullhead City, AZ |
39,824 |
9.2% |
$113,600 |
| 86 |
Titusville, FL |
44,984 |
9.5% |
$112,000 |
| 87 |
Covington, KY |
40,578 |
9.2% |
$100,800 |
| 88 |
Vineland, NJ |
60,824 |
8.1% |
$164,500 |
| 89 |
Holyoke, MA |
40,362 |
10.2% |
$182,700 |
| 90 |
Gainesville, GA |
37,291 |
3.7% |
$172,300 |
| 91 |
Utica, NY |
61,114 |
10.8% |
$89,400 |
| 92 |
Niagara Falls, NY |
48,976 |
9.4% |
$69,900 |
| 93 |
San Marcos, TX |
59,935 |
7.8% |
$153,000 |
| 94 |
North Miami Beach, FL |
43,963 |
10.2% |
$170,100 |
| 95 |
Porterville, CA |
58,782 |
11.8% |
$163,100 |
| 96 |
Houma, LA |
33,784 |
7.5% |
$153,000 |
| 97 |
Hamilton, OH |
62,216 |
9.3% |
$102,300 |
| 98 |
Bowling Green, KY |
64,302 |
7.2% |
$145,500 |
| 99 |
Banning, CA |
30,824 |
12.0% |
$197,500 |
| 100 |
El Centro, CA |
43,932 |
14.6% |
$172,800 |
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Wilson should absolutely not be number one, let alone on this list. I am from Wilson and I work with emergency services; from a close perspective, we have hardly any crime. Additionally, I graduated from high school recently and schools in Wilson regularly send students to Duke, UNC, West Point, and ivy leagues. Your data is flawed and your analysis ignorant of the true social complexity and geography of Wilson.
I totally agree with this. I live in Nashville NC. You all need to take a look at Wilson’s neighbor, Rocky Mount. THAT place should be #1.
I moved from raleigh to wilson to buy an affordable house. The house I got from wilson costed 117k, in Raleigh it would of costed 250k. Wilson is a quiet and safe town. I can see people moving to Wilson in the future since its really starting to build up the city. Wilson do have areas that look like crap but Raleigh does too.
Elkhart at one time had more millionairs per capita then anywhere in the US . not that long ago Obama was in town talking about of the overpass so everyone could get from the TNT lounge to Louie and Kelley’s Faster.. Ha ha . nonsense the prez knows as much about as this outfit. Line roll . Finkelstein
Not sure where or when you got your data but unemployment in Elkhart Indiana is less than 5 percent. You need to double check your facts, your story is flawed.
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Kokomo SUCKS! Should be #1 on the list! Sure its automotive city, but you have to make $25.00 an hour to afford bail money. The cops sit in the parking lot waiting for someone to smoke a joint on their break! lol
Your comment is a joke. And a lie.
Come on, Elkhart is absolutely awful. I know several couples that refuse to have children until they can afford to move out of the area.
And whatever the fallacies of this article or the data set, if you actually live in a decent city, it should never be on a list like this. Period.
Just by making a list like this is proof positive that all these cities are terrible.
Kissimmee is a high crime town but the TV show cops was never ever filmed anywhere close. Most of the first few seasons wee in ft lauderdale area which is about 3 hours away. There were some in the Tampa area but that’s over an hour away.
Kissimmee is not a “dangerous” place. Just like all cities, there are dangerous areas within the city. But the entire city isn’t some back alley. Show a picture of the downtown area, it’s beautiful. Then talk about how it’s Disneyworld’s fault that we have such low median wages. Talk about good things like no state taxes and no taxes on food or medicine.
I know Wilson is not the greatest town on earth but it certainly should not be #1. It is not as crime-ridden as some other towns in the state. I grew up in Wilson County Schools. It was nothing great, just average. I can agree that some improvements could be made, however, I can think of some neighboring school districts that are worse. Pick on another town…
Totally agree with Mary! Rocky Mount NC, Wilson’s crapburger neighbor should have taken this “honor”.
Why the hell are you picking on Wilson? Did anyone get any data on Rocky Mount NC at all?? That place is a shit pit for real and should definitely be #1! Anyone who has ever lived there can’t wait to get out. The schools are a 3 out of 10 at best, crime happens everywhere you go, unemployment is more common than having a job, healthcare is Russian roulette, everyone with any kind of cash flow is a classist douche, and the gene pool is really more of a shallow puddle. And there is absolutely NOTHING to do for entertainment besides watching your neighbor’s babydaddies get into a brawl. Really, y’all. Wilson may not have a mall but they have a gd free standing Starbucks, ffs!
Look at all the facts. They said population under a certain amount. Population in RM is much higher. You can’t compare the 2 when the criteria they look at is different. Besides, Rocky Mount made their other list.
Ha! Kissimmee (where I live) made #4. Yes, Tackytown USA sits right next to the Unmagical Kingdom of Walt Disney World in Osceola County, which influences the low wages of the hospitality industry, drug crime, prostitution, and growing homelessness. Way to go, Kissimmee!
i know by fact and i live in kissimmee myself we dont belong in #4 yes our crimes was at worse before but this year and i myself live in a place where it was bad bad bad im talking about drugs etc .. the place now is clean cause cops came in and shut it down took care of stuff and took away those people who were heads of the drugs etc .. as for jobs theres many outthere that are hiring the fact that people are tooo lazy to go apply is another story but our schools also should rank higher i myself graduated from a school of people who helped me get a diploma and push to get it . so reconsider kissimmmee .
Kissimmee isn’t dangerous to the extreme but there are a number of places where it’s not safe. But in general, Kissimmee sucks to live in. It’s hard to find work & when you do, you’re barely working & if you don’t want to struggle, you better have a good car in hand or else living here in Kissimmee can & will be a nightmare. Other than that, it’s okay…
id like to know who decides this stuff , I live in richwood wv .the ultimate hellhole we have about 1800 ppl .we have no hospital,we have no grocery store ,,all that is here is a mill that my husband works at that holds us here,we have a dollar general and a rite aid, most people that are here are sucking up welfare and disability and most of it don’t need it ,they are just to lazy to work.the others have to drive 25 miles over to Summersville for work and 25 miles back .I have to drive 50 miles round trip to the grocery store in Summersville every other week on payday
Don’t know where you get your facts. Roseville, michi is not a bad place to live. Been here all my life! Not too long ago, it was listed as one of the best run cities in the country!
I have never felt unsafe in the City of Kissimmee-in fact, it is most likely one of the safest communities in Central Florida thanks to the Kissimmee Police Department. We have a beautiful historic downtown and our Kissimmee Lakefront Park is first class all the way. We are adding jobs and opening new businesses every month and our local economy is improving every day. I am proud to live and work here. Nick-come on down for a visit and I will give you a personal tour and show you not only what a great City we have, but let you see how wonderful our community really is.
Ponciana is part of Kissimmee and that alone has 70k residents.
This survey is a JOKE……There are a lot of cities worst than Roseville.
Barstow, California!
I’ve lived in Wilson, NC for the past 28 years and have to agree that this ranking is totally bogus. Wilson may not be the best place to live but weather, historical preservation, a thriving arts council, and citizens who work pretty well together count for a lot. And it’s kind of weird that low home prices are viewed as a negative. Prices aren’t rock-bottom low, just affordable. Most of us view that as a plus.
Obviously not a lot of investigating went on with this list. First anyone in North Carolina knows that Rocky Mount has a shooting every week, yet there Police Chief says they have no gang or drug problem. Maybe this site should also look into cities that accredited police departments versus those that can hide their crime rates. Maybe just maybe you need to look further because if you ask anyone around Rocky Mount/ Wilson you will find that Wilson is by far safer
Agreed. Why isn’t Rocky Mount #1?
I wonder how many of these are run by Democrats?
what does “run by Democrats” mean? Nice job playing the “us versus them” game on something that should be of concern for all Americans.
It makes a it if difference…. Many of the highest crime cities are under democratic control..
Just curious – why do you have a photo of Niagara Falls, Ontario instead of NY? I agree it’s not the best city, but your photo is not correct!
I agree with Terri, the slideshow photo #8 is not Niagara Falls, NY, but Niagara Falls, Ontario. A simple map street view will verify this.
Hoboken should not be number one. Though it has a lot going for it, some of the streets flood when the seasons change. There is a very impoverished corner with project housing, and residents there are antagonistic towards others. The road infrastructure leaving Hoboken is designed deliberately like a maze to keep crime out and from people navigating safely to and from the airport. The mafia still control everything, and if you get on their bad side will start to harass you. The air quality is terrible. It’s really landlocked despite train access to the city. See my comments on the roads above. Food though is excellent.
I understand that “data-driven Journalism” is a thing these days, but this is a terrible example. The metrics are poorly thought through and the article is poorly written.
First of all, there is a big difference between a “small city” and a “small town”. 60,000 is definitely *not* a small town, though it is a small city. It’s an important distinction as they are two different categories with different sets of problems.
Second, spending per student is a terrible metric for education. Attainment on national tests would have been easy to use instead, and relates much more directly to quality of education.
Then you say things like “What’s interesting is that half of these are in Indiana or New York.” While that’s true, there are also two Florida cities on the list — and as Florida and New York are two of the largest states by population, they’re much more likely to have entries on the list. So the only one that looks like an outlier is Indiana.
Finally, you just didn’t proof-read this. Your list at the end is not of the “next 20 cities”, but the next *10*, bringing you to 20.
If you’re going to sell yourself as a data-driven site, you need to learn to think analytically about the questions you’re trying to answer, instead of throwing a bunch of data against a wall and seeing what sticks.
Nick James is an idiot, and his science is at best a joke!
This list is a bit off I currently live in Roseville aesthetically it is not modern nor that attractive but it isn’t as bad as you say it is. I currently live in Roseville due to affordability there are parts of Roseville that are safer then others. But to say it is the worst shows how this article and this bogus ranking is a complete joke.
You left out Panama City, Florida; Dothan, Alabama; Marianna, Florida; Cottondale, Florida; and DeFuniak Springs, Florida. All anthills of crime with junky stores selling people’s old toasters, clothes, gaudy cheap China, and crap as vintage. Thoroughly racist hellholes too. Meth labs, domestic murders, and flooded country backroads in rainy season dominate the news.
I was born and raised in Valparaiso, IN and have a lot of family in Elkhart. I really hated everything about the the entire area – pollution, corruption, crime, drugs, lack of stimulating activities, brutal winters, sunshine only 30 days a year – the list goes on and on, but a 9.5% unemployment rate sounded insane, even for these pathetic towns. I found this on the Bureau of Labor Statistics website from 2016-2018 and the unemployment rate never rise above 4%. I’m just curious where the 9.5% came from?
Local Area Unemployment Statistics
Original Data Value
Series Id: LAUMT182114000000003
Not Seasonally Adjusted
Area: Elkhart-Goshen, IN Metropolitan Statistical Area
Area Type: Metropolitan areas
State/Region/Division:
Indiana
Years: 2016 to 2018
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2016 3.8 3.8 3.9 3.5 3.3 3.7 3.6 3.6 3.3 3.2 3.1 2.9 3.5
2017 3.2 3.0 2.6 2.1 2.4 2.6 2.6 2.9 2.3 2.2 2.4 2.1 2.5
2018 2.4 2.5 2.2 2.0 2.4 2.7 2.6
That’s the problem with Wilson, It sucks and swallows but nobody knows it.
That’s the problem with Wilson, It sucks and swallows but nobody knows it.
As someone who’s lived in Wilson, NC all her life, I can definitely agree that it’s a terrible town, but I also feel like in comparison to our neighbor, Rocky Mount, we definitely shouldn’t be top ranked. Wilson County School systems have gone to shit in the past few years though, I have family and friends who are teachers and honestly, if you love your kids, you’ll make sure they end up at a school outside of Wilson. But other than that and a lack of entertainment, I can’t really imagine Wilson being so terrible. There’s a lot of petty crime here but nothing crazy. There’s more shootings per week in Rocky Mount than there are here.
There’s no way some of these places beat out Newport, TN!! They must’ve not looked thru every small city possible. This is one the worst towns I’ve ever seen in my life. It’s a black hole that is impossible for people to get out of. There’s no job opportunities. Education is lacking. Drugs have taken over. People struggle all day, every day. It’s just disgusting really!! I know for a fact that some of the places listed are WAY nicer and better off than Newport is!! Also, the whole thing about home prices being low is a sign of a place no one wants to be, isn’t always true!! I say that because some of the homes in Newport are priced outrageously. They’re priced way higher than what they are worth. The reason for this is that we border a tourist town and people try to convince home buyers to come the next town over to stay out of the traffic, but still be within driving distance. Most of the time though, you get junk for the asking price!! So basically, they’re trying to take advantage of out of towners that are looking for a vacation home, or retirees.
they said most was AL or TX so not true look at the list.. GA and AR had more we had maybe 1 from what i saw.. FL had lots also. LaGrange GA just up the road and seems like pretty good place to live.. growing by leaps there. Columbus GA should have been on the list plants closing all the time here no one can find work..